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  • #14005
    Cherrydanish
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    Hi there,

    I own two 105e Anglias in Australia. Ones a green and white from 1963 and the other is a red and white, ’63 built ’64 model. I have found it really hard to find out any info or history on my cars as Ford Australia has kept no records for earlier than the late 60’s. So there’s nothing at all about what the codes represent or even what paint colours were used. Searching through forums I’ve noticed that there are a lot of people asking about these things so I thought I’d share what info I’ve found out with you all. Most of it comes from other early Aussie Fords but seems pretty relevant to my little Anglias too. Here goes…

    ID plates…There were three different types used…


    1960-1962

    1963-1965

    1965-1970

    This is from my ’63 Anglia. I’ll use this as the example…

    The first numbers are the Serial Prefix. Mine is ABSYC
    -The AB represents the manufacture and assembly. I’m guessing mine is A=Australian assembly B=British manufactured (or Halewood Plant?)
    -The S I think stands for Sedan or Saloon
    -The YC stands for the month and year of build. Early models (pre-airflow) had the month then the year. Models from ’65 onwards had the year first then the month. I’ve found this chart on an Australian Ford Forum. Unfortunately it doesn’t go earlier than 1961…

    So mine is Y=June C=1963…..Happy 50th birthday to my little car!!

    The next lot of numbers is the Serial Number. Mine’s 100513. These is also the second half of the Chassis number and is basically your car’s individual number.

    Next is the model number. Mine is 21112. This is also the first half of the chassis number (there’s an s in between the serial and model numbers to make up the chassis number. My chassis number is 21112s100513)
    -the first two numbers are the Anglia model numbers ie 21
    -The next three numbers could mean 2 door deluxe (a 2 door cortina deluxe had the code 28112)

    The next digits are the paint code. Mine is AOO
    -The first of the three is the roof colour, the second the middle colour and the last the lower colour.this is another chart I’ve found on the Early Falcon Car Club of WA’s page. The colours shown are appropriate for my cars so I’m assuming we can use it for Anglias too…


    So from these my car is A=Merino White roof and W=Kurrajong Green for the middle and lower colours. I’ve also bought Anglia paint swatches from the UK and tested them against my cars. It’s a perfect match for Spruce Green and Ermine so I’d say we used the same colours as UK in Australia but gave them Aussie names.

    The next is the Trim code which thankfully is the same as the UK codes so it’s an easy one :)

    There are also a few differences in the Australian version. The pillar badges are black in most original cars that I’ve seen. The metal strip above the door trim is chrome as standard where I believe it only features on the Supers in the UK (correct me if I’m wrong). Our wheels were painted to match the car colours. My red and whit one has white wheels and my green and white one has green wheels.

    Please let me know if any of this is incorrect or if you can add info that I don’t have. I’d like this to be as accurate and detailed as possible to help out my fellow Aussie Anglia lovers.

    Cheers,
    Dani

    #29884
    Matt99
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    MASSIVE thanks to you for this info ive been searching for it for days on the net :D

    #29885
    Cherrydanish
    Participant

    So glad it helped you Matt99! It’s so frustrating that there’s not more info in Aus.

    #29916
    Anglia Dave
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    Brilliant info there mate. Thanks Matt for pointing me in this direction And Cherry for doing the hard yards :)

    Looking at my ID plate I have ABSXD in the first box which indicates Aus assembly, Brit build, Sedan then not sure from there. The ‘x’ is throwing me a little after that – any thoughts? Could be a ‘K’ i guess but looks very much like an ‘X’ to me

    My model number is 21112 also.

    Paint code is AAA white is looking like all white but which white would depend on the year.

    Trim is A650 which looks to be Ravena red

    My ID plate from my thread here viewtopic.php?f=3&t=3571&p=19438#p19438 looks to be the style you have listed as ’63 to ’65

    Any thoughts or comments appreciated and thanks again for your research.

    Dave (from SA)

    #29917
    Matt99
    Participant

    Hey Dave
    I would definatly agree that its an x on you re plate the only thing i can think of it that it is a 59 as the table here only goes back as far as 1960 if i find out any more ill be sure to post :-)

    #29918
    Cherrydanish
    Participant

    Hi Dave,

    I’ve admired your wife’s car on the Facebook page…It’s amazing!

    Glad this info has been helpful! From your info, I’d say yours is a ’64 model. I believe that earlier than ’61 they used the number of the month and year instead of letters ie Sept 1960 was 960. Also, your serial and SIDO numbers are higher than on both of my cars which are ’63 built. Can’t help you with the x though. It might be a mid month code as I think they did that in the UK?

    I know the Distributor changed from a DM2 to the 25D in around mid ’63 so that might help you?

    As for your paint, As yours looks to be a creamy white under the layers, I’d say it’s likely to be Merino as I believe Arctic was a bit brighter.

    I’m really looking forward to seeing what you do with your little car :)

    Cheers,
    Dani

    #29919
    Cherrydanish
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    @Matt99 wrote:

    Hey Dave
    I would definatly agree that its an x on you re plate the only thing i can think of it that it is a 59 as the table here only goes back as far as 1960 if i find out any more ill be sure to post :-)

    I agree Matt, it’s definitely an x. Wouldn’t surprise me if Ford Aus used the x cos they couldn’t find the k stamp though…

    #29920
    Matt99
    Participant

    Yeh so ive come to learn nothing with ford Australia is a cert. In you re research did u find anywhere how to tell if the anglia has matching numbers ?

    #29921
    Cherrydanish
    Participant

    I haven’t I’m afraid. It’s really frustrating. If you find anything would you mind sharing it so we can make this thread as informative as possible for us poor Aussies :)

    #29922
    Matt99
    Participant

    If its anything like my escort or cortina it matches with the chassis number

    #29923
    Cherrydanish
    Participant

    Oh yes, my Chassis is made up of my model number and serial number with an s in the middle.

    #29924
    Matt99
    Participant

    do either the model or serial numbers match the engine number ?

    #29925
    Cherrydanish
    Participant

    Unfortunately no. I found my engine numbers on the side of my engines…kind of between the fuel pump and Dizzy

    #29926
    Anglia Dave
    Participant
    Club Member

    @Cherrydanish wrote:

    Hi Dave,

    I’ve admired your wife’s car on the Facebook page…It’s amazing!

    Glad this info has been helpful! From your info, I’d say yours is a ’64 model. I believe that earlier than ’61 they used the number of the month and year instead of letters ie Sept 1960 was 960. Also, your serial and SIDO numbers are higher than on both of my cars which are ’63 built. Can’t help you with the x though. It might be a mid month code as I think they did that in the UK?

    I know the Distributor changed from a DM2 to the 25D in around mid ’63 so that might help you?

    As for your paint, As yours looks to be a creamy white under the layers, I’d say it’s likely to be Merino as I believe Arctic was a bit brighter.

    I’m really looking forward to seeing what you do with your little car :)

    Cheers,
    Dani

    Thanks for the kind comments on the wife’s car. I’m upgrading the brakes at the moment then will fit an upgraded ignition and hopefully after that she’ll be back on the road so I can spend some time on my car.

    Although my sedan will be going down the path of being modified I would still like to paint it the original white and stick with the original red colour for the interior for authenticity. That and the fact that I had a white sedan 20 years back and always regretted selling it.

    #29927
    Matt99
    Participant

    what kind of brake upgrade are you doing Dave ?

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