Is my clutch upgraded and other little mysteries UPDATED

[VisuvesiAnglia]

Pulled the engine and box out of the Anglia today, a nice easy job with no real issues other than a few seized and rusty bolts

Now I have a few questions.

1 is this the escort or anglia clutch

is this the modeified release bearing or a standard one?



I dont think it is, either way its full of play so needs replacing

Can anyone tell me if this is the escort or anglia slave cylinder?

Finally what should be here?

Im sure Ford would not have supplied that little bit of pipe with a bolt in the end!

And whats this bit do?

The black bit with a hole in the top

[Dalek]

@VisuvesiAnglia wrote:

Pulled the engine and box out of the Anglia today, a nice easy job with no real issues other than a few seized and rusty bolts

Now I have a few questions.

1 is this the escort or anglia clutch

Later xflow type clutch

@VisuvesiAnglia wrote:

is this the modeified release bearing or a standard one?



I dont think it is, either way its full of play so needs replacing

Not modified and should be a rounded type release bearing to go with a straight finger clutch like the one you have fitted. You are also missing a clutch bearing spacer, you can buy them from 105speed

@VisuvesiAnglia wrote:

Can anyone tell me if this is the escort or anglia slave cylinder?

Only escort rs1600 (BDA) and twincam (lotus) escort had the same bell housing and cluch mechanism as the anglia. Impossible to tell if it’s escort or anglia without measuring the bore of the slave cylinder. However… was the clutch very very very heavy ? If so i would say it was an anglia slave, the escort one makes it lighter

@VisuvesiAnglia wrote:

Finally what should be here?

Im sure Ford would not have supplied that little bit of pipe with a bolt in the end!

A blanking plug ! you can buy them from burton power for about 27p ! You’re engine was originally out of an escort since that’s where the dipstick went for a rear bowl sump

@VisuvesiAnglia wrote:

And whats this bit do?

The black bit with a hole in the top

engine breather, on the escort that is connected to the inlet manifold to reburn the crankcase fumes. On the anglia that would go to the atmosphere via a pipe pointing to the ground.

Craig

[VisuvesiAnglia]

Thats great…. Thank you very much for your help, looks like the previous owner only did half the job.

You say its an escort engine… does this mean that its bigger capacity than the 1200cc mentioned on the logbook?

looks like I have a bit of shopping to do

Also another question, how much play should there be on the input shaft? (the one that goes from the gearbox thru the clutch)

[VisuvesiAnglia]

would the correct cylinder have these numbers?

64067950 or PJH126 Ive found one for sale…. as Im in finland I need to be sure I have the right one

[Svein]

Parts list say E305-GD-1 or E272-GD-1 for early one

I think it is wise to buy a bearing and extender for that clutch from 105speed or Burton, they also sell 7/8″ slave cylinders suitable for this type of clutch.
Also occasionally available on ebay.co.uk
I use a 1600 clutch and 7/8″ slave and clutch pedal feel is OK.

105speed received a new batch of extenders this week.

This is mine

[VisuvesiAnglia]

Ok close inspection reveals a 711m 6015 AA block :(

I was under the impression that that block should have a cross flow head with the exhaust and carbs on opposing sides. Mines has the both on the one side

Do I have a bastardisation of an engine?

Im a little concerned now that Im gonna have issues with getting parts.

[Svein]

711m AA is normaly a 1100 or 1300ccm crossflow and with precrossflow head it is a Bastard, yes :-(

That said some do this conversion using flat top pistons from Anglia-Cortina engines (no bowl) and skim the engine block to get usable compression. A head off for inspection/measurement and compression calculation is needed.

added the 1100 info.Forgot it in first post

[VisuvesiAnglia]

This looks like its gonna be a headache, with the engine out and the sparkplugs etc still fitted the engine can be turned quite easily by hand, which led me to beleive the head gasket was leaking, maybe now Im not so sure.

I will do a compression test on monday and report back before I take the head off.

Last time I do a favour for a friend lol

[VisuvesiAnglia]

well here are some more pics and info

The main questions I have right now are

Which Gaskets will I need?

The inlet manifold is marked 105E 9425 and has E11 at the other end so Im assuming 105E gasket will be correct

The Exhaust Manifold is marked 105E 6450 so again 105E Gasket

The carb is marked C6AH 9E510A, Im guessing this is correct for the model so again 105E

Now for the fun Bit… I need a set of gaskets for the top End (Head and rocker cover etc)
The head is marked T7 and I Beleive 1279 but its quite hard to make out

The block as is mentioned earlier is 711M 6015 AA
I need a sump Gasket for this, Im assuming ill need an Escort one, although the sump is a front pan type so maybe a cortina one?

Ill guess that the timing cover gasket and the rear crankshaft oil seal (The one behind the flywheel) will need to be Ford escort/cortina ones.

This is becoming a big big headache lol

anyway here are some pics for reference. with more info to follow once I do a compression test and get the head off

Hope you guys can help me out here and if any more pics are required please ask

[VisuvesiAnglia]

Ok Cylinder head is off… pictures below of the head and pistons

Pistons have the following marks

Starting from the flywheel end
1 T16 +060 and on the oppposite side 18649
2 K8 +060 and on the oppposite side 18649
3 K7 +060 and on the oppposite side 18649
4 K8 +060 and on the oppposite side 18649

The head is marked on the underside 105E 6450

What measurements do I need to take on the block to find out if it has been machined?

[Svein]

Standard clearance volume for that head unskimmed is ca 31,6 cc and is then used with flat top pistons.
These “in bowl chambered” pistons are for later type 1600 xflow with a flat head.

18649 is a 9:1 1600 x/f std replacement piston.In a 1300 it will give around 8:1 c/r (info found at Turbosport forum)

Your combo is not good: block is 1300, pistons are for 1600 =>> low compression, head is precrossflow =>> NO compression left?

My choice: look for another engine.

[VisuvesiAnglia]

trying to find a suitable engine in Finland is going to be an issue.

The head is in good shape, so is the block. I think the most ecconomical way forward is flat top pistons, Burton do these for 50 quid each and then rings at another 70 if they are not included with the pistons…. Im awaiting a response from them on this one.

Its funny really that the engine was running reasonably well and pulled through the gears without any problems (I just thought it needed a good service). It wasnt untill I started dismantling it to fix the oil leaks that I dicovered I even had a problem lol.

From little acorns as they say…..

[Svein]

Be aware that standard prexflow pistons and xflow use different comp hight!

The £50 type pistons are casted type and most likely forces a block skim to suit.
That is what i did to a 1600 711M block and some +0.090 pistons, pistons also needed a small mod to the piston skirt as they was to long/deep and hit the crank

[VisuvesiAnglia]

Ok thanks for that. Why isnt anything ever straight forward?
I think Ill have to keep eyes open for a suitable pre x flow engine.

[VisuvesiAnglia]

an interesting update.

decided to put the engine back together as is with a new head gasket and seals.
The head and block were refaced with only the bare miniumum removed.
Pistons were cleaned up and replaced with new rings.
valves were cleaned polished and reground
Head was cleaned and the combustion chambers polished with the ports being tidied up smoothing the worst of the flashing inside.

compression test gave 161 163 161 and 165 PSI
Wet test Gave 169 171 168 and 173 PSI
This is much Higher than I anticipated!

Any Thoughts?

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